Wednesday, December 1, 2010

That eve character appraiser thing

EDIT: Since people are still arriving here via google, I would encourage you to check the comments. Some of my criticisms are technical limitations, one was a design decision and one actual bug was fixed.

Also, this thing is years out of date and using it doesn't make sense any more oh my god please stop whining.

A couple people have linked to an automatic character value appraisal tool recently. I gave it a try (14b, since I'm sure you care) and it's an interesting tool, but I sure hope it's still under development since most of what I noticed about it were the errors.

Starting at the top, it noted under 'character specials' that I can fly t2 amarr and gallente cruisers, but failed to note that I can also fly caldari freighters, caldari, minmatar and gallente carriers and supercarriers (including bombers) and caldari and minmatar dreadnaughts. I really think there should be price modifiers for those, or at least one for each class of capitals a character can fly.

Under the implants section it noticed my slave alpha through epsilon implants, but failed to recognize slave omega, CC8 or ZET5000 (combined value 1.25 billion).

Lastly, looking through the skill categories it seems to have imported all level 4 capital-related skills as level 3, including capital ships, fighter bombers, tactical weapon reconfiguration, capital projectile turret, minmatar carrier, minmatar dreadnaught and gallente carrier.

So, maybe some room for improvement.

6 comments:

  1. I care, considering I MADE the tool :P

    Let me be the first to thank you for posting this publically and yet not bothering to mail me :P

    QUOTE: Starting at the top, it noted under 'character specials' that I can fly t2 amarr and gallente cruisers, but failed to note that I can also fly caldari freighters, caldari, minmatar and gallente carriers and supercarriers (including bombers) and caldari and minmatar dreadnaughts. I really think there should be price modifiers for those, or at least one for each class of capitals a character can fly.

    It's about what's valued by the community. While I could add price modifiers for those ships, it would mean I would need to devaluate the individual skills, creating the same status-quo, but at least keeping you happy :P

    QUOTE: Under the implants section it noticed my slave alpha through epsilon implants, but failed to recognize slave omega, CC8 or ZET5000 (combined value 1.25 billion).

    Unfortunately, Hardwire implants aren't included in the Skill API, and therefor you should complain to CCP about this, not to me.

    QUOTE: Lastly, looking through the skill categories it seems to have imported all level 4 capital-related skills as level 3, including capital ships, fighter bombers, tactical weapon reconfiguration, capital projectile turret, minmatar carrier, minmatar dreadnaught and gallente carrier.

    This could be a bug. If you could mail me with either your API key or put your skill sheet up on EVE Board and tell me the URL, I can see what went wrong there.

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    1. Your tool has no value or place in the game. it doesnt give people a good idea of what their characters should sell for it gives them values that you would like to buy them for so go play the meta elsewhere.

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    2. I am by far behind Anonymous poster here. I know that what I BOUGHT my character for was far under its market value. Now I am trying to sell it with 6 months more training to round it out and your price check tool is putting it 2 billion ISK under what I even paid for it. Terrible tool all the way around or I would not be having to turn to the community for an estimate. By YOUR standards the character is worth at least half what I should expect to receive for it

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    3. It hasn't been updated since 2011 at the latest, guys. It's time to stop expecting it to be accurate.

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  2. I'm going to have to stop using that tagn aren't I. It's attached to posts about my character, but there's a recurring issue where readers think it pertains to the content of the post. Which I suppose rather makes sense.

    When it comes to 'specials' I think that using a consistent system to calculate character value would be preferable to doing it peacemeal between skills and abilities. Apparently that way causes confusion.

    Re: Implants it's your tool, so you complain to CCP. It isn't hugely concerning to me since I have no plans to sell a character, but it is a noteable weakness.

    L4 cap skills are still importing as level 3, so I've mailed you the API key in-game.

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  3. The L4 skills are fixed, there was a slight miscalculation in my SP+RANK=SKILL, meaning that it missed the level by 5 SP or so. Thank you, I would've missed that bug entirely if it wasn't for EVE-fail.

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